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- [S8] Information from an informant - Auskunft eines Informanten - Information d'un informateur.
This completes my research on the extended family of Joh. Jacob Mandery
(b:
1817). However, there are a few people in the Spring Grove plots that I
have not investigated yet. There are also two individuals that I can't
hook up into a family line. The site is down right now, so I will have
check into this at a later date.
Sometime during the week, Judy and I will go over what we have on Joh.
Jacob Mandery b: 1821). She has much more info than I do.
Claire
Children of Andrew Mandery and Kate Sein or Seim:
1880 census ? Jacob (circa 1864), Katherine (circa 1867) and John C.
(circa 1872)
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M89S-PJS
There are two Jacob Mandery's close in age in census records. One was
born about 1864, and the other is the one in your db born about 1867. The
one in 1867 was married to Carrie Hoffmann per Judy's rsearch. (info for
that family will follow shortly).
Census records show the Jacob from 1864, married to Elizabeth C. There is
only one census listing his dob as 1866, causing much confusion. Minus
parent information and dob's for both Jacob and Elizabeth, the only two
that come up show the marriage on Sept. 8, 1887. Elizabeth's maiden name
was Cordes or Kordes.
Marriage record:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XD8K-5HH
The 1900 census indicates that Jacob was born in May of 1864. Elizabeth
was born in Oct. of 1866. Children: Edna (Nov 1889), Laura (Oct 1893) and
Andrew (Sept 1895)
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MM8Z-D11
The 1910 census states that they went from Cincinnati to Columbus. This
census lists Jacob's dob as 1866, but the kids names are the same:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MLZT-5W1
Laura's exact DOB from Ohio births (Oct 22, 1893)
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XXZR-B2J
I did not locate burials for Jacob or Elizabeth. However there are three
children buried in Spring Grove whose parents were Jacob and Lizzie.
Their birth info would coincide with the marriage information.
Annie Mandery lived for five hours and died on Jan. 9, 1889:
http://www.springgrove.org/stats/46835.tif.pdf
Stillborn child (no sex or name listed) date: Apr. 13, 1888:
http://www.springgrove.org/stats/45635.tif.pdf
Katie E. survived 16 days (Dec., 6, 1891-Dec. 22, 1891):
http://www.springgrove.org/stats/52877.tif.pdf
From that, I was able to locate the marriage of Edna to Wilbur Sadler
Allison on June 19, 1912:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X8WW-GYC
Edna and husband were found in Indiana. Using the 1940 census, to show
children: Jane and Wilbur.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/V118-CBF
Death of Edna (Nov, 1973):
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JY6F-5ZZ
Death of husband (Aug. 1966):
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/J1Z6-KPK
I did not find additonal info on Laura.
Information on son, Andrew came from the following:
WWI draft card (dob Sept. 13, 1895)
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/K6FN-CSM
California Deaths (July 19, 1965)
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VP28-TRX
Marriage of Andrew to Edith Wilson (July 16, 1933)
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/K8F6-72J
Though he was listed as married in 1940, Edith was not in the household,
but there are Wilson names appearing above his:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/K94C-YG5
This concludes information on Jacob Mandery.
The second child of Andrew and Kate was Catherine. I did not find any
information on her.
Finally, the last of their children was John C. (Jan 11, 1872-Jan 2,
1939)
Here is what I found.
Will start off with his death info. However, note that it says he was
married to Tillie Raiser, so first wife must have died:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XZG8-B9Z
The 1920 and 1930 census records indicate that he was married to a Lena
(1920) and Helen (1930). I think that Helen and Lena are one and the same
person (dob coincides with both records) Son Harry's marriage record
indicates his mother's maiden name was Campbell:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MDBP-BNP
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X4W9-G5T
They had a son Harry that I located in the 1910 census, but his father
was listed as John E., rather than John C.:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MLNS-XSN
I finally located Harry in the 1900 census (dob listed as April 1892):
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MM8K-4QK
This date disagrees with other vital records, such as:
WWI draft card (Oct 27, 1891):
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/K6FQ-5XV
WWII draft card (Oct 17, 1890)
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X5WS-J2L
Harry's SSDI claims he was born on Oct 17, 1890. He died in Aug of 1972.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JRJZ-735
Harry married Florence Focke on July 18, 1912:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XD8M-NJW
The had a son Harry who was born prematurely in Dec. 1912. He did not
survive. You can't go with the dates on the transcript, as they have the
child being born in 1888. When you view the actual certificate, you will
see that he was born on Dec. 24, 1912, but died on Dec. 23. I think they
reversed the dates.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X663-22L
They also had two other children per 1930 census (Helen and Caryl):
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X4WS-9T5
Claire Rassman
- [S8] Information from an informant - Auskunft eines Informanten - Information d'un informateur.
Found more information, while inputting data.
Harry S. Mandery (d: 1972) divorced Florence Focke.
I noticed that Harry was listed with an Agnes, in the 1940 census. Her
age at the time of the census, is a bit off from records that I found, but
I think I did find some information on her.
To begin with, Florence died in 1945. If you view the actual death
certificate, you will see that she was divorced.
Link:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X6FH-7XC
Here is the link for the 1940 census, showing Harry and Agnes:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KWPP-6K5
Notice that she was born in Indiana, but her birth is listed as about
1900.
When I checked death records for an Agnes Mandery, in Ohio...........I
found an Agnes Sokamp, born in Indiana. Birth was in 1896: No marriage
record found in either Ohio or Indiana.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F6NC-TR7
Says she is buried in Baltimore Pike. This is one of the four cemeteries
in the Catholic Cemetery Society in Cincinnati. Though Judy does have
Mandery Records for St. Mary's, you can not find any Mandery names listed
in any of the four on the website search. Could be a misspelled name
thing again.
In addition, when I looked up the death of Harry Jr. (born to Harry and
Florence), I noticed that the death certificate listed him being buried in
Rachigs Cemetery (transcript says Rachigo). A google search stated that
Rachings is more popularly known as Baltimore Pike.
Claire Rassman
- [S498] Ohio Marriages 1800 - 1958.
Name: Harry S. Mandery
Birth Date:
Birthplace: Cincinnati, Ohio
Age:
Spouse's Name: Florence Focke
Spouse's Birth Date: 1896
Spouse's Birthplace: Cincinnati, Ohio
Spouse's Age: 16
Event Date: 18 Jul 1912
Event Place: Hamilton Co., Ohio
Father's Name: John C. Mandery
Mother's Name: Helen Campbell
Spouse's Father's Name: August Focke
Spouse's Mother's Name: Mary Schlegel
Race:
Marital Status: Single
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M86903-9
System Origin: Ohio-VR
GS Film number: 0365189
Reference ID: 2:3KQZVB3
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