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- [S8] Information from an informant - Auskunft eines Informanten - Information d'un informateur.
Dear Ursula and Recs:
The following was typed before you entered info into your database. I
held off sending it, so that Judy could review it first.
Therefore, some on the info is already in your db. Much of it is not.
Under separate cover, I will send cemetery records, as well as more info
on the Johannes Jacob Mandery born 1821.
Extension of Johannes Jakob Mandery Line (1817)
The second child of Benjamin was born on the same day that you list in
your database. He died from exhaustion on Jan. 20, 1874. He is buried in
Spring Grove (see link below):
http://www.springgrove.org/stats/25630.tif.pdf
Kind of strange that he was buried a month later.
His wife Catherine ((maiden name appears as Deck on burial card) was born
1818-1819 and died on July 5, 1899 (see link):
http://www.springgrove.org/stats/63577.tif.pdf
Children of Jakob and Catherine.....
Andrew Mandery ? I did find his death certificate, but believe that his
father was mistakenly listed as Andrew. In fact, the informant did not
know the mother's name either. It is a fact this his mother, Catherine
was the grave owner (listed on Spring Grove Cemetery records). There is
also no other Andrew buried in this site.
B: Mar. 24, 1842, D: Apr. 28, 1911. The death certificate states that he
was buried on May 2, 1911.
Death link:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X8DQ-HJK
He is buried in Spring Grove (burial card link):
http://www.springgrove.org/stats/80653.tif.pdf
I located Andrew, wife and children in 1880. Wife was born about 1843 in
Kentucky. The children were all born in Ohio: Jacob (16), Catherine (13)
and John C. (8).
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M89S-PJS
He was married to: Katherine (Kate) Sein, according to the death record I
found on his son, John C. I will bring that link up under John C. Kate
maiden name listed as Seim) is also buried in Spring Grove, maiden name
listed as Seim (see link to card) death date Feb. 5, 1899:
http://www.springgrove.org/stats/62951.tif.pdf
Though I did not find a marriage record for Andrew and Kate, I did find
the second marriage to Henrietta Wehrung Feuerstein on June 13, 1900. She
was born about 1849 in Germany.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X8C7-1KF
Children of Andrew and Kate Sein or Seim:
For now, I am only including John C.. I did not find Catherine, but the
Jacob I found could belong to either Jacob (1817 or 1821). Will continue
to search records.
Julia (daughter of Jacob -1817)
You found a piece of information that I did not have regarding her
marriage to Wilhelm Conrad (listed as Conradt) in Spring Grove. Nor did I
have her son, Charles. There are 21 people buried in Garden Ln Section
14, Lot 25. Owner of the grave site was Catherine Mandery (presume it's
Jacob's wife).
Links to graves for Wilhem and son, Charles:
http://www.springgrove.org/stats/16625.tif.pdf
http://www.springgrove.org/stats/78765.tif.pdf
Give me time to go thru all of the 21, for relationships. In the
meanwhile,
Julie was married to George Garnatz, after death of Conrad/Conradt. Could
not find a marriage record, but her name appears on daughter, Louise's
death record. Louise as born on Dec. 23, 1882 and died Nov 3, 1916,
passing away from typhoid fever:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X8N8-8V8
It appears that Louise was married, as I found a record. However, I could
not find her and husband in census records, so perhaps they divorced.
Otherwise I do not know why her maiden name was used on death record.
Marriage record:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XDXM-FDR
She is buried in Spring Grove:
http://www.springgrove.org/stats/88056.tif.pdf
I did find a 1900 census record, showing George, Julia and Louise:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MM8K-713
The census stated that they married about 1869 and that George was born
in Oct., 1843, Germany. Last name is listed as Garnate on census.
Judy located his name on the other side of the Mandery headstone in
Spring Grove. The stone reads: Oct. 28, 1843-May 31 1904.
Julia is also buried there, per her card from Spring Grove (died: July
18, 1938):
http://www.springgrove.org/stats/119761.tif.pdf
This card DEFINITELY has a typo, listed her birth as: Oct. 8, 1876. I
believe it should read 1846.
They also had a youngster, Arthur (listed as Anthers on burial card). He
was only two when he died (b: about 1877, d: Mar. 31, 1879):
http://www.springgrove.org/stats/32437.tif.pdf
George and Julia also had a son, George (Apr. 6, 1871-Nov. 19.1913). He
is buried in Spring Grove. His name led to other information. See burial
card link:
http://www.springgrove.org/stats/84088.tif.pdf
George, Jr. married Amelia K. Beiler (born about 1875) on March 28,
1894:t
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X8CS-QN5
Per 1910 census, they had three children: George F. (13), Hilda C. (11),
Mildred S. (7):
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/ML89-C22
Amelia does not appear in the same plot as her husband. She remarried to
Edward Eckel after George's death, per 1920 census:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MDBG-LH6
Son, George F. married Edna Caroline Schneider on May 28, 1926:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XZY4-YH8
Edna was born on June 8, 1896 and died on May 24, 1993. See link:
http://www.springgrove.org/geneology.aspx?id=196364&cemetery=SPRINGGROVE
In the 1940 census, George and Edna had a daughter: Mary Carol:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KWPY-K25
George F. was born on Feb. 3, 1897 and died on May 18, 1960. See link on
Spring Grove:
http://www.springgrove.org/stats/147805.tif.pdf
I did not find any further information on the daughters.
Rosina or Rose (daughter of Jacob 1817) was married to Henry Schmitt on
Nov. 30, 1856:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XD86-LMP
Judy located his name on the back of the Mandery monument. I found the
record on Spring Grove.
It stated that he was born on Feb. 18, 1883 and died on Aug. 13, 1935:
http://www.springgrove.org/stats/115704.tif.pdf
Rosina was born about 1839 and died on Feb. 21, 1911, per Spring Grove
burial card:
http://www.springgrove.org/stats/80337.tif.pdf
The names are common, so I could not really prove anything by viewing
census records. There were other Schmitt's buried in the same grave site,
but I am thinking that they were related to Henry.
claire rassman
- [S37] 1860 US Federal Census, (www.ancestry.com).
Name: Rosina Schmidt
Age in 1860: 20
Birth Year: abt 1840
Birthplace: Ohio
Home in 1860: Cincinnati Ward 12, Hamilton, Ohio
Gender: Female
Post Office: Cincinnati
- [S4] 1870 US Federal Census, (www.ancestry.com).
- [S38] 1880 US Federal Census.
- [S19] 1900 US Federal Census, (www.ancestry.com).
Name: Rosina Schmitt
[Rosina Schmidt]
Age: 63
Birth Date: Dec 1837
Birthplace: Ohio
Home in 1900: Cincinnati Ward 24, Hamilton, Ohio
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Widowed
Father's Birthplace: Germany
Mother's Birthplace: Germany
Mother: number of living children: 2
Mother: How many children: 4
- [S30] 1910 US Federal Census, (www.ancestry.com).
- [S8] Information from an informant - Auskunft eines Informanten - Information d'un informateur.
In a previous email, I stated that Rosina Mandery (daughter of Jacob/1817)
was married to Henry Schmitt. I had difficulty finding further
information. However, I did a bit more research and discovered that they
had at least two children: Henry and Jacob.
1870 census:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M62N-DP6
In 1930, Henry was listed as divorced and living with his aunt, Julia
Mandery Garnatz:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X4WM-5Z1
I did not have any luck located a marriage or family. Did find his death
record, though and his burial card at Spring Grove. (June 4, 1865-Aug.
13, 1935)
Death record:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X6WN-8LG
Burial card:
http://www.springgrove.org/stats/115704.tif.pdf
I did find several bits of information on their son, Jacob.
He was born on Mar. 29, 1861 and died on Sept. 27, 1937 (see death link):
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XZHJ-W4T
I was able to locate his burial site from the death record. When I went
to the cemetery website, there was no search, but I clicked on FINDAGRAVE,
and it turned up...headstone and all:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=schmitt&GSiman=1&GSc
id =236798&GRid=38113652&
(Bridgetown Cemetery in Cheviot, Hamilton Co., Ohio)
He was married to Lena Daiker on Feb 5, 1885 in Hamilton County.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XZCS-K5H
Located five sons, in 1900 census:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MM8F-5J4
Lena was born on Feb 22, 1863 and died on Dec. 27, 1930. She is buried
with
Jacob.
Sons were: Edward, Louis, Jacob, Albert and Clarence. Giving you the
following information, as I located it.
Albert died in a motorcycle accident (June 6, 1891-May 28, 1921. He is
also
buried in Bridgetown and was married to Edith Applegate.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X8PM-D5Q
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Schmitt&GSiman=1&GSc
id =236798&GRid=37452862&
Edith (Oct 4, 1891-June 30, 1927) is also buried in Bridgetown:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Schmitt&GSiman=1&GSc
id =236798&GRid=37452674&
Located this family in 1920 with four children:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MDGC-93R
Edward H. was born on Mar 9, 1886 and died on Jan 8, 1946. Bridgetown
Cemetery link:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Schmitt&GSiman=1&GSc
id =236798&GRid=38113674&
Death:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XX9B-K8P
He was married to Amelia C. Ziegelmeier (Mar 18, 1889-June 25, 1949) Death
transcript reads Bieglemeier, error.
Death:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F6Z9-3F5
Bridgetown Cemetery record:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=38113701
In the 1920 census, I found two children:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MDBL-P3C
I did not find anything on Louis, born in April 1888.
Jacob, Jr. married Lillian Walkenhorst on Nov 30, 1911:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XD8M-Y9R
His DOB is listed as Nov 14, 1888 on WWII card:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X5HJ-FZS
I located him and Lillian in the 1940 census, with two children. He was
listed as John J. Schmitt.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KWPR-8J3
With that information (John J.) I was able to locate Jacob's death
records and burial.
Death-Jacob:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VKLF-R6T
Bridgetown:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Schmitt&GSiman=1&GSc
id =236798&GRid=38113755&
His wife is buried in Bridgetown, but no year of death is listed:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Schmitt&GSiman=1&GSc
id =236798&GRid=38113778&
Clarence married Dorothy Gudgel on Aug. 7, 1918:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X8TJ-LFP
In checking census records, it appears that they only had one son,
Donald.
Giving you 1940 link:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KWX2-HYN
I did not find death records on either, but did find some information in
Bridgetown).
Clarence:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Schmitt&GSiman=1&GSc
id =236798&GRid=38113771&
Dorothy:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Schmitt&GSiman=1&GSc
id =236798&GRid=38113741&
This is a whole lot of info. I will continue to search for records on
all the children of the five brothers, and send anything I find, in a
separate email.
claire rassman
- [S926] Find-A-Grave, (www.findagrave.com).
Rosina Schmitt
Birth: unknown
Death: 1911
Note: More information is available via the Spring Grove website at http://www.springgrove.org/sg/genealogy/stats/80337.tif.pdf
Burial:
Spring Grove Cemetery
Cincinnati
Hamilton County
Ohio, USA
Plot: Garden LN, Section 14, Lot 25, Space 16
Maintained by: Patricia (Patti) Joy Ber...
Originally Created by: Auto Graver
Record added: Oct 21, 2011
Find A Grave Memorial# 79033687
- [S632] Ohio, County Marriages, 1774-1993, (www.ancestry.com).
Name: Henry Schmitt
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Age:
Spouse's Name: Rosa Mandery
Spouse's Birth Date:
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age:
Event Date: 30 Nov 1856
Event Place: Hamilton, Oh
Father's Name:
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Father's Name: Jacob Mandery
Spouse's Mother's Name:
Race:
Marital Status:
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M86914-8
System Origin: Ohio-VR
GS Film number: 0344471
Reference ID: 2:3QMG2P6
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